Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paperpatched conical bullets. Corbin paper patch and blackpowder bullet swagingreloading. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. Maybe not quite what youre looking for but i did experiment with 158 grain. We have all the answers on what bullet caliber sizes are the best for you plus tips. Now if you mean can you fire a 9mm luger cartridge in a. His delightfully informative book on the subject, the paper jacket, is perhaps the best resource for a reloader interested in utilizing paperpatched bullets with smokeless powder. If i can get the wife to watch the kids for a while, ill try to launch them. Jul 11, 20 nolead lead remover this stuff really works. The percussion revolver making paper cartridges duration. Is paper patching real for making bullets untraceable. New years day, memorial day, independence day, labor day, thanksgiving and the day after, christmas eve open until 12. Casting, patching and loading their paper patch bullets in the hunting field. Feb 01, 2019 wrapping and sizing paper patched bullets for.
Im aware that many molds are available to cast bullets for paper patching. The reason your grandfather got the amazing velocities wasnt due to the slightly undersized 9mm bullets but because the 9mm bullets were so much lighter than what was available for. My efforts were to shoot them in a 9mm subgun with a shotout barrel. I also did some hunting rifle paper patching very successfully with my 358 win see other 35 cal thread. Good morning, first off, i wouldnt recommend paper patch at all unless you can get with one of these guys here that have figured it all out to help you. Here are the benefits of shooting paper patched bullets in your inline. Paper patch bullets were once the most popular type of bullets in the 1800s. Buffalo arms is closed on the following holidays so that our employees can spend time with their families. Didnt try them in a regular pistol barrel but they chambered in the generously chambered subgun barrel. A bullet is a kinetic projectile and the component of firearm ammunition that is expelled from the. You may choose from these designs, use one of these as a basis and specify modifications, or submit a completely custom drawing either electronically or by regular mail. This partial 29 rounds box contains round nose bullets in brass cases with no. Most cast bullets are made of lead alloyed with tin and antimony.
An oversize bullet for the 9mm would include hornadys hap bullets. Sep 26, 2009 in shooter, the question was actually, how could a round fired from 1 weapon match a bullet from another, and paper patching was a process that could accomplish this. Grooved bullets for the remington rifle winchester 2520 metal patched bullets 86 grains. I have no big issue with it and it simplifies my ammo supply. As a ammunition manufacture, we load over 400 calibers. A beginners guide for learning to load and shoot paper patched bullets by randolph s. This partial 29 rounds box contains round nose bullets in brass cases with no headstamps. North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead bullets and the papers that works best. They dont appear to give much benefit over lubricated lead at revolver velocities. Why is a lighter 9mm armor piercing bullet, such as the 65 grain bullet in the. This expanding catalog contains designs that are already on file. Nolead lead remover this stuff really works daily bulletin.
However, in the movie, they mention the fact that the bullett match was metallurgical, not ballistic, using the signature straitions of a barrell. Why did they paper patch bullets in the movie shooter. Be aware that due to their custom nature, many of these bullets are designed for a specific purpose or firearm, and wont necessarily fit or feed as drawn in all guns of that caliber. The company just introduced a new 9mm revolver in their pro series line that is meant to offer more custom features at more manageable prices. However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets ppbs exclusivel. Corbin paper patchblackpower bullet tools corbin swaging. I have a ton of 90gr, 9mm380 bullets that are too short for 380 and work just ok in 9mm. Nei lee rcbs saeco and lyman ideal, are companies im familiar with to whatever degree. I have a friend that is old school revolver and he has a bit of disdaine for the 929. For the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load. We rely on a quality products, delivery and value for our customers. But the op is probably asking if a 9mm cartridge can be fired in a. They were great on groundhogs, muskrats, coyotes, and foxes.
Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Its standard production revolvers are better than most of the competitions tricked out top end guns. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. Along that line, consider how nicely a heavy 45caliber singlediameter revolver cb could function as a ppcb core for a 45caliber rifle. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. These use a 2 14 case introduced by sharps, and an assortment of sizes and shapes of paper patched bullets. I slugged eight 8 9mm barrels, and they ranged from. World record attempt open sight shot 2240 yards ernest jimenez unmodified k31 swiss 7. Paper patched bullets were used in some early cartridges, though i dont fully understand why. New years day, memorial day, independence day, labor day, thanksgiving and the day after, christmas eve open. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. How ammunition is made material, manufacture, history, used. Ppbs work equally well with black or smokeless powder. Paper patching muzzle loader bullets alaska outdoors forums.
Made by the same folks that created wipeout, and carbout, the nolead brushless lead remover really works. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. Spitzer bullets combined with machine guns greatly increased the lethality of the battlefield. If you are an active rimfire shooter, or if you shoot cast lead bullets in centerfire rifles and pistols, you should try this product.
Patching with teflon tape was reading an article about paper patched bullets when i stumbled on an article about useing teflon tape instead. The rifling lands engraving showed this was unfounded. There is not enough bearing surface to hold them in the 380 cases and still keep them below max coal. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of. Small arms ammunition includes cartridges with a bullet diameter, or caliber, of up to. Choose a design from our catalog or submit your own custom design. Enter your name, address, and billing information for prompt shipment. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paper patched conical bullets.
A cast bullet is made by allowing molten metal to solidify in a mold. Would be of interest to research this,not only would make it easier but teflon tape is verry slippery. The bullets must be cast under size enough to allow for the paper, and a slight hollow in the base to pack the paper helps. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. Wrapping and sizing paper patched bullets for muzzleloaders. Now, i would like to try paper patched bullets in my 7tcu but the gun has some problems with the lockup mechanism ill need to fix before i mess with it again. Years ago i did some of that paper patching for a 3006 spfld according to the harris developments. Its performance center guns are even better, and much more expensive. The 9mm cartridge is designed for semiautos, so it lacks the large rim thats found at the base of revolver calibers like. I have heard of using bore size bullets and i have also heard of using smaller than bore bullets, hopefully one of these guys here will kick in some help. I was thinking that since they taper down so quickly, that they might work with a light roll crimp in a 38.
I have heard of using bore size bullets and i have also heard of using smaller than bore bullets, hopefully one of. Some guns have either rougher bores, or the barrel has loose and tight places where gas. Precision cnc lathe bored custom bullet casting molds. Please post what you find,it sounds interesting and would like to know how fast you can push them and of corse accuracy being the main consern also. Jun 12, 2009 world record attempt open sight shot 2240 yards ernest jimenez unmodified k31 swiss 7. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. Winchester metal patched 110 grain super speed bullets for 30 w. Small arms ammunition, or cartridges, are used in a variety of firearms ranging from. If youre a diehard paperpatched bullet shooter, youre undoubtedly familiar with paul matthews. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets.
These will be found with paper patched bullets, like this one, as well as plain lead bullets. Jan 28, 2015 the korth sky marshal is a 6shot 9mm revolver that, unlike most 9mm revolvers, does not require moon clips. Thing to consider also, is that the bullets in similar weight between 9mm and. Sizing paperpatched bullets for smokeless powder load data. Here are the benefits of shooting paperpatched bullets in your inline. This video will show the basic 2 wrap patch boolit. The company just introduced a new 9mm revolver in their pro series line that is meant to offer more custom features at. The cast bullet association is an organization of shooters who enjoy shooting cast lead bullets in rifles and handguns for competition, hunting, or informal target shooting.
Syntech coating is very slippery, and i was concerned bullets might slip or strip in the rifling. I paper patched a variety of 9mm and 38357 bullets. This for you old or ancient guys paper patched bullets gun. The maxiballs seemed loose and i wasnt getting the groups that i expected, so i stuck my calipers down the muzzle. This catalog is a record of molds ive made, and posted for reference. The cartridge continued to be produced by a number of european ammunition makers until just before world war 1. The art of paper patching, how to make your paper patched. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer fit, tailored to a particular firearm. I have included a picture of a model 1878 nagant revolver.